Yeshua, Moshe’s successor, bows to an angelic spirit: the spirit does not correct him
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? Joshua 5:13
Yochanan bows to an angelic spirit, the spirit corrects him
And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:8-9
Yaaqob is convinced He has seen the Living God
And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Genesis 32:29-230
Gideon is convinced He has seen the Living God
And Gideon saw that he was the angel of the LORD; and Gideon said: ‘Alas, O Lord GOD! forasmuch as I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face.’
And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die. Judges 6:23
Samson’s parents are convinced they have seen the Living God
Then Manoah inquired of the angel of the Lord, “What is your name, so that we may honor you when your word comes true?
He replied, “Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding” Judges 13:17-18
………………And Manoah said unto his wife, “We shall surely die, because we have seen God.” Judges 13:22
Yeshayahu is convinced he has seen the Living God
Then I said: Woe is me for I am ruined because I am a man of unclean lips and live among a people of unclean lips, and because my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of Hosts. Isaiah 6:5
A spirit bearing an unknown Name
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse, and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness, he doth judge and make war.
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
The Living God’s Own Words
Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. Exodus 24:10
Let us dig deeper as to what happened here-
11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness.
12 And the Lord spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice. Deuteronomy 4:11-12
Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, Deuteronomy 4:15-16
The people saw the glory of the Living God, but they saw no form, no shape, no similitude.
“And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that you have spoken: for you have found grace in my sight, and I know you by name.
And he said, I beseech you, show me your glory.
And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.
And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. “Exodus 33:17-20
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12
The Living God says that no man can see his face, yet the Scriptures describe Moses as talking to God face-to-face, and a bunch of righteous men, who are not called idolaters or corrected by the Angel that met them or by others, are convinced that they have seen God. What gives?
And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Exodus 33:23
Why does the Elohim, who cannot lie, say that that no man can see his face and live, yet his servants insist that they have seen his face, and the Scriptures insist? The inherent weakness of translations strike again. Moshe speaking to Elohim face-to-face, in the Hebrew is , “panim-to-panim”, which can also mean presence to presence. The mighty one made his presence clear to Moshe, and he even saw the form according to Exodus 33:23, but no one has seen the face of the Living God Himself, and lived. Who then, is this “representative”, that Jacob, Samson’s parents, and Isaiah saw?
Yeshua the image of the invisible Living God
…Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Collosians 1:15
Yeshua the Messiah says if you see him you see the Father
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? -John 14:9
And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. -John 12:45
Yeshua the perfect manifestation of the Living God
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;- Hebrews 1:3
Yeshua the Word that became Flesh
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
The above verse is edited sinfully by cultic groups such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14
So stop and think whenever you read in the Tanakh, that the “Word of the Lord” came to a prophet.
The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest…Ezekiel 1:3
The idea of a “begotten son” being limited to the carnal scope of sexual relations and of giving birth is the sign of a reprobate mind or willful ignorance. For example, a man who is called “a son of Satan” is not necessarily from the loins of the devil. The angels are called “bene Elohim”, in the Old Testament/Tanakh, but they are not literally from a reproductive action by the Living God. This trap is one in which Islamic people fall into.
The one who does not accept the Messiah and accuses those who do of being idolatrous is by their own measuring stick calling many of the righteous men in the Torah they refuse to study properly- idolaters. The Tanakh records numerous instances of men mistaking an “angel” or a “man” as being God himself, not dying as the Living God says they would die if they saw him, and not being condemned as idolaters for doing so.
The Living God never lies. When he says you will die if you see him, he meant it.
The one that they saw was his Word in an angelic form.
In Jacob’s encounter, the man he thought to be God himself, could be touched and wrestled with. We know that Jacob thought that the man was God himself, because he says that he lives in-spite of seeing the man. The one that the New Testament testifies about is this same man, except this time he was born from a woman called Mary, and conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and not through sex with Yosef. If you encounter one of these non-Messianic peoples, be patient with them as the Ruach Hakodesh leads us to do, because patience is one of the fruits of this Spirit. This post in truth, barely scratches the surface of the Messiah’s references in the Old Testament.
Recommended reading: Concerning Our Words- II